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	<title>Comments on: Innovate, or die.</title>
	<link>http://students2oh.org/2008/08/31/innovate-or-die/</link>
	<description>The silent majority speaks up</description>
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		<title>By: Thing 23: Where do we go from here? &#124; Library Lion</title>
		<link>http://students2oh.org/2008/08/31/innovate-or-die/#comment-1421</link>
		<dc:creator>Thing 23: Where do we go from here? &#124; Library Lion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 03:22:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://students2oh.org/2008/08/31/innovate-or-die/#comment-1421</guid>
		<description>[...] an early blog post of mine, Thing 5, in which I refer to a high school student&#8217;s post.  In Innovate or Die, Anthony Chivetta throws down the gauntlet to challenge his teachers to both accept and embrace the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='microid-cc26cd143203df6889957f7f3401101123ab1eb7'>[...] an early blog post of mine, Thing 5, in which I refer to a high school student&#8217;s post.  In Innovate or Die, Anthony Chivetta throws down the gauntlet to challenge his teachers to both accept and embrace the [...]</div>
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		<title>By: Dr. Davis</title>
		<link>http://students2oh.org/2008/08/31/innovate-or-die/#comment-1415</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr. Davis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 22:55:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://students2oh.org/2008/08/31/innovate-or-die/#comment-1415</guid>
		<description>I think that you make some good points and I can certainly see how teachers need to get involved with technology.  

I also appreciated your comment against passive acceptance of information from the media, though I will say that the generation before yours is who began the pushback and currently enable it.

I am interested in your description of teaching back and wonder if you could comment more on how you think that could happen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='microid-d203d73d08776a07ffdf184360d4a32d3d2aee9b'>I think that you make some good points and I can certainly see how teachers need to get involved with technology.  </p>
<p>I also appreciated your comment against passive acceptance of information from the media, though I will say that the generation before yours is who began the pushback and currently enable it.</p>
<p>I am interested in your description of teaching back and wonder if you could comment more on how you think that could happen.</p></div>
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		<title>By: Reflections on Google reader &#124; Web 2.0 Portfolio</title>
		<link>http://students2oh.org/2008/08/31/innovate-or-die/#comment-1382</link>
		<dc:creator>Reflections on Google reader &#124; Web 2.0 Portfolio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 16:23:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://students2oh.org/2008/08/31/innovate-or-die/#comment-1382</guid>
		<description>[...] at such a furious pace that teachers have been left behind. For example, I read this post about innovation on student 2.0. How is a huge bureaucracy such as the public school system to stay afloat in this [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='microid-c941b7d2895d4b307e83e123cc7603c4942453f8'>[...] at such a furious pace that teachers have been left behind. For example, I read this post about innovation on student 2.0. How is a huge bureaucracy such as the public school system to stay afloat in this [...]</div>
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		<title>By: Nils Peterson</title>
		<link>http://students2oh.org/2008/08/31/innovate-or-die/#comment-1344</link>
		<dc:creator>Nils Peterson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 16:39:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://students2oh.org/2008/08/31/innovate-or-die/#comment-1344</guid>
		<description>I'm excited to find this site and this post in particular. Within WSU's Center for Teaching, Learning and Technology we are thinking about these ideas, from the perspective of how the university might reform. We are trying to find the 2.0 replacement for Blackboard, and its not just a different teacher-controlled tool. We are thinking about how the community might (must) play roles in &lt;a href="http://wsuctlt.wordpress.com/tag/assessment/" rel="nofollow"&gt;assessing learning 2.0&lt;/a&gt;.

Given that, my question to Anthony is &lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/Ug75diEyiA0&#38;hl=en" rel="nofollow"&gt;Where's the Beef?&lt;/a&gt; . 
Show me a Student 2.0. 

George Hotz is one, he &lt;a href="http://iphonejtag.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow"&gt;hacked the iPhone&lt;/a&gt; as a summer project. It got him all the "certification" he could have hoped for from a university degree. Where are the others?

If Student 2.0 is needing some help getting started, beyond twittering and naval gazing in a blog, then let me suggest some ideas:

The UN has a mechanism for people to ask for or become volunteers on projects. Joan Oviawe used it to start the &lt;a href="https://mysite.wsu.edu/personal/joviawe/GraceFoundation/default.aspx" rel="nofollow"&gt;Grace Foundation&lt;/a&gt;. 

MIT's ThinkCycle Project (currently offline Oct 8/08) is described here in the context of how the &lt;a href="http://www.nilspeterson.com/2007/07/30/land-grant-20/" rel="nofollow"&gt;idea might play out in a land grant university&lt;/a&gt;.

Or you can find your own problem and build a community around it as &lt;a href="https://mysite.wsu.edu/personal/mtamez/calaboz/default.aspx" rel="nofollow"&gt;Margo Tamez demonstrates&lt;/a&gt; in her work on the US-Mexican border.

Want help thinking this through? &lt;a href="mailto:nils_peterson@wsu.edu" rel="nofollow"&gt;Ask&lt;/a&gt;. We'd like to see more Students 2.0.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='microid-130d6140cce8e8791c2d3dc3a1cbd9510798aae4'>I&#8217;m excited to find this site and this post in particular. Within WSU&#8217;s Center for Teaching, Learning and Technology we are thinking about these ideas, from the perspective of how the university might reform. We are trying to find the 2.0 replacement for Blackboard, and its not just a different teacher-controlled tool. We are thinking about how the community might (must) play roles in <a href="http://wsuctlt.wordpress.com/tag/assessment/" rel="nofollow">assessing learning 2.0</a>.</p>
<p>Given that, my question to Anthony is <a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/Ug75diEyiA0&amp;hl=en" rel="nofollow">Where&#8217;s the Beef?</a> .<br />
Show me a Student 2.0. </p>
<p>George Hotz is one, he <a href="http://iphonejtag.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">hacked the iPhone</a> as a summer project. It got him all the &#8220;certification&#8221; he could have hoped for from a university degree. Where are the others?</p>
<p>If Student 2.0 is needing some help getting started, beyond twittering and naval gazing in a blog, then let me suggest some ideas:</p>
<p>The UN has a mechanism for people to ask for or become volunteers on projects. Joan Oviawe used it to start the <a href="https://mysite.wsu.edu/personal/joviawe/GraceFoundation/default.aspx" rel="nofollow">Grace Foundation</a>. </p>
<p>MIT&#8217;s ThinkCycle Project (currently offline Oct 8/08) is described here in the context of how the <a href="http://www.nilspeterson.com/2007/07/30/land-grant-20/" rel="nofollow">idea might play out in a land grant university</a>.</p>
<p>Or you can find your own problem and build a community around it as <a href="https://mysite.wsu.edu/personal/mtamez/calaboz/default.aspx" rel="nofollow">Margo Tamez demonstrates</a> in her work on the US-Mexican border.</p>
<p>Want help thinking this through? <a href="mailto:nils_peterson@wsu.edu" rel="nofollow">Ask</a>. We&#8217;d like to see more Students 2.0.</div>
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		<title>By: Student Blog Comment &#124; GeoBlog</title>
		<link>http://students2oh.org/2008/08/31/innovate-or-die/#comment-1341</link>
		<dc:creator>Student Blog Comment &#124; GeoBlog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 00:14:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://students2oh.org/2008/08/31/innovate-or-die/#comment-1341</guid>
		<description>[...] is my comment.   under:&#160;Technology Tags: student blog    &#171; Student Blogging [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='microid-517743a8189076f3b755f56dc7705ce663327c78'>[...] is my comment.   under:&nbsp;Technology Tags: student blog    &laquo; Student Blogging [...]</div>
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		<title>By: Laura</title>
		<link>http://students2oh.org/2008/08/31/innovate-or-die/#comment-1340</link>
		<dc:creator>Laura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 00:12:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://students2oh.org/2008/08/31/innovate-or-die/#comment-1340</guid>
		<description>I think your observation that previous generations were consumers of education while members of the current generation are producers is an insightful one.  While we are all both producers and consumers of goods, ideas, and education, it seems clear that today’s students expect to interact with technology and with each other in new ways.  Your statement, “Failure to innovate around this new structure will cause education to take an increasingly marginalized role in the lives of our students,” both motivates and scares me.  There are already too many students who marginalize the role that education plays in their lives.  Will using Web 2.0 technologies capture the attention of some of these students or will it simply enable students who are currently engaged in education to remain so?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='microid-40d109295fe1349e7bff4f7b5a294a3eddab50f7'>I think your observation that previous generations were consumers of education while members of the current generation are producers is an insightful one.  While we are all both producers and consumers of goods, ideas, and education, it seems clear that today’s students expect to interact with technology and with each other in new ways.  Your statement, “Failure to innovate around this new structure will cause education to take an increasingly marginalized role in the lives of our students,” both motivates and scares me.  There are already too many students who marginalize the role that education plays in their lives.  Will using Web 2.0 technologies capture the attention of some of these students or will it simply enable students who are currently engaged in education to remain so?</div>
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		<title>By: Authentic assessment of learning in global contexts &#171; Center for Teaching, Learning, &#38; Technology</title>
		<link>http://students2oh.org/2008/08/31/innovate-or-die/#comment-1339</link>
		<dc:creator>Authentic assessment of learning in global contexts &#171; Center for Teaching, Learning, &#38; Technology</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 23:46:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://students2oh.org/2008/08/31/innovate-or-die/#comment-1339</guid>
		<description>[...] evidence of this challenge comes from the students themselves, in this manifesto Innovate or Die, Student2oh.org, accessed 10/7/08, Anthony Chiveta argues that this generation of students [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='microid-14ddbeb5ce5e4b573187ce60b598fde780fbe81e'>[...] evidence of this challenge comes from the students themselves, in this manifesto Innovate or Die, Student2oh.org, accessed 10/7/08, Anthony Chiveta argues that this generation of students [...]</div>
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		<title>By: Benjamin</title>
		<link>http://students2oh.org/2008/08/31/innovate-or-die/#comment-1330</link>
		<dc:creator>Benjamin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 18:54:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://students2oh.org/2008/08/31/innovate-or-die/#comment-1330</guid>
		<description>hey my teacher told us to read at least two blogs i didn't plan on reading them but your blog is great it explains alot it just doesn't solve your problames but it explains alot to me and other people as well to tell the teachers how to make  us get a better education thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='microid-98ffe9a59b28f5d75adc79e1083295d1f5dae604'>hey my teacher told us to read at least two blogs i didn&#8217;t plan on reading them but your blog is great it explains alot it just doesn&#8217;t solve your problames but it explains alot to me and other people as well to tell the teachers how to make  us get a better education thanks</div>
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		<title>By: Thing 5: Getting Started with RSS &#124; Library Lion</title>
		<link>http://students2oh.org/2008/08/31/innovate-or-die/#comment-1323</link>
		<dc:creator>Thing 5: Getting Started with RSS &#124; Library Lion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2008 19:59:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://students2oh.org/2008/08/31/innovate-or-die/#comment-1323</guid>
		<description>[...] reading student Anthony Chivetta&#8217;s recent post, Innovate or Die, on the Students 2.0 blog, I understood that the hyperbolic extremes referenced in the title were [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='microid-dab64adf66826ccc2073d58c51696152703f4115'>[...] reading student Anthony Chivetta&#8217;s recent post, Innovate or Die, on the Students 2.0 blog, I understood that the hyperbolic extremes referenced in the title were [...]</div>
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		<title>By: Task #4 &#124; Reflections at Pi</title>
		<link>http://students2oh.org/2008/08/31/innovate-or-die/#comment-1319</link>
		<dc:creator>Task #4 &#124; Reflections at Pi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 17:29:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://students2oh.org/2008/08/31/innovate-or-die/#comment-1319</guid>
		<description>[...] found an article called &#8220;Innovate, or Die.&#8221;  What struck me about the article was the assertion that the current generation of [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='microid-c001ef28dcf054415f19e8533977bdfe7e9735d8'>[...] found an article called &#8220;Innovate, or Die.&#8221;  What struck me about the article was the assertion that the current generation of [...]</div>
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